Subject: RE: OSX vs. YDL
From: Joe Barnett (joe.barnett@bbc.co.uk)
Date: Fri Nov 30 2001 - 09:55:10 MST
Interesting.... MS Windows of various versions are reported to run faster
and more stable on Win4Lin on the ia32 platform. Is there something that
someone is not telling us about time wasting loops built into these products
to encourage us to buy the latest and fastest hardware? Or am I just
paranoid?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keary Suska [SMTP:hierophant@pcisys.net]
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 4:44 PM
> To: Yellow Dog Linux
> Subject: Re: OSX vs. YDL
>
> On a side note, it's interesting that MOL runs faster than Classic mode.
> Go
> figure. Perhaps Apple can learn more from open source initiatives.
>
> Keary Suska
> Esoteritech, Inc.
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>
> > From: Paul Guba <gubavision@home.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:28:57 -0500
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > Subject: Re:OSX vs. YDL
> >
> > First off you are comparing apples with oranges. You may like oranges
> > more but they will never be apples. Is YDL more flexible of course. It
> > is this way by design but it comes at a price. Difficulty in it
> > configuration and its installation upgrading. All the things that make
> > it a very powerful and open platform also make it cumbersome and
> > awkward. OSX however is less open in doing so it has more control over
> > what it includes. Allowing for a more plug and play interface. This is
> > by design simply put the average user does not have the patience or the
> > know how to deal with the a full blown Unix or Linux based system. All
> > you have to do is see the amount of install problems with YDL on this
> > list. Do you really think that would fly in a mainstream product. As
> > far as the bloat ware claim I do believe YDL install wants at least two
> > gigs to install if I recall correctly. Claims that its slow I just
> > haven't seen. If you run a classic app yes it slows down. I imagine if
> > you ran some windows simulator on Linux it too would be slow. My
> > network speeds and file transfer all appear to have increased in speed
> > with OSX and native apps seem as fast or faster. If you were expecting
> > FreeBSD from OSX tough what's the purpose in that it already exists why
> > reinvent the wheel. So if you want control and an open platform go with
> > Linux. I have booth and they live very happily together. In the mean
> > time lets see who can connect a firewire CDR and burn a CD faster. If
> > you win I'll bake you nice orange pie. ;-)
> >
> >
> > On Friday, November 30, 2001, at 09:52 AM, cbsled@ncia.net wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/30/01, at 02:54 AM, "Nathan A. McQuillen" <nm@steaky.dhs.org>
> >> said:
> >>
> >>> That's the thing: it remains a Macintosh, with some of the same
> >>> sacrifices and
> >>> tradeoffs, and much of the same design philosophy.
> >>
> >> Right, and that philosophy hasn't changed in over 15 years. They threw
> >> out some of the best available *nix features, like virtual desktops,
> >> and held on tight to all the truly annoying and dysfunctional parts of
> >> the Mac GUI, along with its traditional "We Know What's Best for You"
> >> lack of configurability. Before anyone flames me for that comment, go
> >> take a look through the KDE Control Center. Now compare that with OSX.
> >> It's pretty and elegant, yes, but it's also pretty clear that they went
> >> for style over substance in the interface design.
> >>
> >> Then there's the matter of the 1Gig base os install footprint... And I
> >> thought Microsoft was the king of bloatware. OS X is over 5 times the
> >> size of 9.1. On a laptop? Better make it a new one. I dumped OSX off my
> >> Wallstreet Powerbook within a week. Including the "developer tools",
> >> which don't include a compiler BTW, it's over 1.5G.
> >>
> >> --
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------
> >> Carl Brown cbsled@ncia.net
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
> >
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