Mac-On-Mac Development.

Jerome Vernet vernet.jerome at wanadoo.fr
Fri Jan 13 13:09:37 MST 2006 

Le 13 janv. 06, à 01:53, Jose Medeiros a écrit :

> What is illegal? Running Mac OSX 86 in VMWARE? If I purchase a legal
> copy of Tiger ( And I have ) then no copyright violation exists.

Read the EULA that come with your MacOsX licence: it's written that you  
can *only* run MacOsX *on* Apple hardware.

So, running MacOsX on non Apple hardware is prohibed.

Running MacOsX under vmware under Linux on a new macintel may be permit  
;)

Jerome

> I was
> just at Mac World and spoke to several Apple executives and SE's
> stating that I run it on VMWARE for testing purposes, and they
> mentioned that they would bring this up at their next management
> meeting with Steve Jobs.
>
> On the other hand, I agree with you. It would be nice if VMWARE also
> ported their app to run on Tiger.
>
> Peace,
>
> Jose Medeiros
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> On 1/12/06, Steven McGrath <steven.mcgrath at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, I have plenty of webspace at my site on chigeek.com.  All I am
>> looking for is coders.  The main obsticle is the kernel driver.  It
>> simply needs to be updated for 10.4.  From there we can start to work
>> on other aspects, like sound and networking.
>>
>> On 1/10/06, Hex Star <hexstar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I meant having a VMware so that various versions of MacOS could be  
>>> run
>>> within a MacOS on a Mac, not a PC...oh and that is illegal....*sigh*
>>> why do people pirate Apple products? Especially MacOS X, one of their
>>> main flagship products...it takes away money they deserve, and I for
>>> one would hate for them to turn to the ways Micro$oft has turned,  
>>> what
>>> with increased prices, the activation system, Micro$oft also has lost
>>> any innovation...illegally obtaining Apple products takes away their
>>> money which may cause them to, if it happens enough, go the  
>>> activation
>>> way which'd suck...I don't even think they have a registration key
>>> that is required for install and that could make it's way there if
>>> people keep bootlegging the PC beta of OS X, plus with less money
>>> there's less innovation and one of the main reasons I switched to mac
>>> is because of their great innovation...so c'mon, don't bootleg Apple
>>> products, of all the illegal activities you could do, do you really
>>> have to chose to illegally obain Apple products? Why not instead grab
>>> a copy of Micro$oft Vista?
>>>
>>> On 1/9/06, Jose Medeiros <jose.medeiros at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> It all ready runs in VMWARE. I've been running it for several  
>>>> months.
>>>>
>>>> Check out this link.
>>>> http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm? 
>>>> fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=6290994&blogID=51581816
>>>>
>>>> Peace,
>>>>
>>>> Jose
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>> ----
>>>>
>>>> On 1/9/06, Jose Medeiros <jose.medeiros at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> It all ready runs in VMWARE. I've been running it for several  
>>>>> months.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check out this link.
>>>>> http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm? 
>>>>> fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=6290994&blogID=51581816
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jose
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> On 1/9/06, Hex Star <hexstar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> oh and by the way, perhaps you guys could also mention here if  
>>>>>> you'd
>>>>>> be interested in those at VMware writing a version of VMware for  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> mac so that it'd run any MacOS inside of the current OS? Please  
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> your reply specify if you'd be interested in this and if I get  
>>>>>> enough
>>>>>> yeses I'll send them over to those at VMware to see if we can't  
>>>>>> get a
>>>>>> Mac version of VMware developed. :-) If we could get them to  
>>>>>> develop
>>>>>> and support VMware for MacOS X it'd be great IMO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/9/06, Hex Star <hexstar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I'd love to have this project more developed, although I am not  
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>> to do any coding I could offer webspace for the project...I'd  
>>>>>>> love to
>>>>>>> see this developed to the point that you could run a full MacOS  
>>>>>>> 9 or
>>>>>>> below and perhaps in addition all MacOS X versions without  
>>>>>>> having to
>>>>>>> reboot into the full on OS...VMWare for MacOS X perhaps...VMware  
>>>>>>> X?
>>>>>>> Anyways I'd love to see this continue to be supported and I hope  
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> project doesn't disappear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/9/06, Steven McGrath <steven.mcgrath at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have talked to the developer of Mac-on-Mac, and he doesn't  
>>>>>>>> wish to
>>>>>>>> further develop the application to work on 10.4, or any other  
>>>>>>>> future
>>>>>>>> efforts.  Attached below it the email I received from him.  I am
>>>>>>>> curious as to if there is anyone out there who would like to  
>>>>>>>> further
>>>>>>>> develop the application, and pick it up from where it was  
>>>>>>>> dropped?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello again,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the problem is not monetary, actually not at all and I would
>>>>>>>> not feel comfortable accepting donations because I might not
>>>>>>>> have success. I'm not very good in understanding someone
>>>>>>>> else's code, especially not if it is rather undocumented.
>>>>>>>> Samuel Rydh is the founder of the MoL project an probably wrote
>>>>>>>> most of the code of the VM engine and it appears that he's not  
>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>> to continue his development either. Due to the lack of G5  
>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>> and no replies to my mails (to discuss some issues in his code I
>>>>>>>> don't understand) I lost my ambition to continue the development
>>>>>>>> of MoM. I prefer to develop things from scratch just to know  
>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>> what's going on but in case of MoM thats nothing you do within a
>>>>>>>> couple nights that takes months and probably years.
>>>>>>>> I suppose the project was doomed by the day the Intel switch was
>>>>>>>> announced and I did not get any support from some more qualified
>>>>>>>> open source developers (well there where some who know HTML
>>>>>>>> and JavaScript but that's not very useful in this case ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        -Sebastian
>>>>>>>> - Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:20 PM, Steven McGrath wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Damn, This Intel switch is causing a lot of waves to stop  
>>>>>>>>> development
>>>>>>>>> in areas such as this.  It's sad, because a lot of us would  
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> love to continue to use this software.  Many of us as well  
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> aren't looking forward to the intel switch, however would love  
>>>>>>>>> to run
>>>>>>>>> this in 10.4 and get 10.4 running inside it.  If the issue is
>>>>>>>>> monetary, please let me know.  I would be happy to donate some  
>>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>>> to further development and help raise money.  I saw a lot of  
>>>>>>>>> promise
>>>>>>>>> in this application, and it would be sad to see it rot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/05, Sebastian Gregorzyk <basti at bastix.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Steven,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am curious as to if there is any further development  
>>>>>>>>>>> ongoing with
>>>>>>>>>> MoM?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I doubt it, due to the upcoming Intel switch I see no need  
>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>> PowerPC VM for OS X.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on some other projects now and I don't think that  
>>>>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>>> have time for MoM.
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         -Sebastian
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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