newbie needing big help

[Ryan Mesler]

congrats! you've done much more than i have when i started linux 4 years ago
:) installing kde was a b*tch and a half!

Ryan Mesler
Technical Support
Internet America

If at first you don't succeed, call it version 1.0

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Metts" <linux@gameimages.com>
To: "ydl - general" <yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: newbie needing big help


> Success...so far.  Well, I went back and checked the two dependency
> problems, one I definitly didn't need, the other was questionable.
> Anyway I decided to be a little ballsy, I mean if I had to reinstall
> everything, who cares, I have experience at least in the YDL
> installation disk, so I used the --nodeps otion in the removal.  I did a
> test run on the install, and had 3 dep problems.  I said screw it and
> used --nodeps again.  Everything installed, and voila, after typing
> "satrtx" it booted just fine. I hope those dep issues don't come back to
> haunt me though.
>
> If it is ok, could someone explain the whole dep thing to me...is it
> simply that one program might depend on another simply to be able to
> run?
>
> Thanks for the help...I will be needing soem more, so I hope this list
> doesn't mind me using it to help learn Linux.
>
> Much appreciation!  Any suggestions on where in the Linux system would
> be good to start trying to tweak for my system...I know the kernel is
> off limits to me right now, but I would like to use one of the benh
> kernels, it seems as though many PPC people prefer his.  Any
> suggestions, I want my G4 to fly, so I can use Linux solely.
>
> Current neccessities:
> Print Capabilities
> CD rom issues - says "mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device"
> Use second Processor - I downloaded and installed the SMP one off the
> YDL site, but didn't see any improvement
> Should I?
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2002-04-14 at 09:39, Stefan Jeglinski wrote:
> > >I am a fresh linux newbie, having installed my first linux system about
> > >a week ago...YDL 2.2.
> >
> > Just an initial comment. If you're a newbie, I say press forward and
> > see what happens. The best thing that can happen to you right now is
> > for you to hose your system. You'll learn a lot about it in the
> > process. And the reinstalls become easier and easier :-) If for some
> > reason you can't -afford- to hose it -and- you are a rank newbie, you
> > may be in over your head at this point.
> >
> > >Anyway, my problems are many right now, but I am going to focus on one
> > >at the time...KDE 3.0.
> >
> > I would agree with Ryan, cutting your teeth on this one may be a bit
> > much to chew. But what the hell.
> >
> > >[root@linni RPMS]# rpm -e `rpm -qa |egrep ^kde` koffice SDL-devel
> > >error: removing these packages would break dependencies:
> > > libDCOP.so.1   is needed by kio-mac-1.0-1a
> > > libkdecore.so.3   is needed by kio-mac-1.0-1a
> > > libkdesu.so.1   is needed by kio-mac-1.0-1a
> > > libkdeui.so.3   is needed by kio-mac-1.0-1a
> > > libkio.so.3   is needed by kio-mac-1.0-1a
> > > libkssl.so.2   is needed by kio-mac-1.0-1a
> > > kdemultimedia   is needed by autorun-2.61-5
> > > kdebase   is needed by autorun-2.61-5
> > >[root@linni RPMS]#
> >
> > As these things go, this is pretty good. There are really only 2
> > dependencies here. Here is how I would proceed (I used to hose
> > -something- doing these things, and every time, I figured out a lot).
> >
> > What you're trying to do here is remove KDE2 first, and it's
> > believable that there are a couple of other things that will need to
> > go too. So first, what are kio and autorun? (we're looking to see
> > what might happen if we remove them). I don't have kio installed, so
> > I don't know what it is; do 'rpm -qi kio-mac-1.0-1a' to find out.
> > Likewise with autorun shows it is safe to remove it first (IMHO). So
> >
> > 'rpm -e kio-mac-1.0-1a' first will remove the first 6 deps.
> > 'rpm -e autorun-2.61-5' first will remove the last 2.
> >
> > And your original rpm -e instruction should then work.
> >
> > >Should i force it with the "nodeps" option,
> >
> > Bolder users would indeed cast the original instruction as 'rpm -e
> > --nodeps ...' which will override the dependency warnings.
> >
> > >and if so,
> > >what command do I use to install the new kde.
> >
> > This is a different ball game. I always begin with 'rpm -Uhv --test
> > ...' to see what messages appear. If none, go ahead. If messages
> > appear, deal with them first.
> >
> > Stefan Jeglinski
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