yellowdog-general digest, Vol 1 #757 - 16 msgs
Chris Taylor
yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Sat Apr 12 00:12:01 2003
On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 00:03, ctaylor@ydl.net wrote:
> Has anyone encountered a problem during the install of YD 3.0?
The 333mhz imac ended up having problems installing off a 700meg CDR. I
ended up using a 650CDR for the ISOs. Now 3.0 is up and running on my imac.
Seems slower than 2.3:/ I haven't looked into this yet.
3.0 would only install using the text installer, which isn't too bad.
Thanks for your help all!
Chris
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Wireless Solution for 12" Powerbooks (Dan Burcaw)
2. battery trouble (Beartooth)
3. Re: miboot documentation? (really minimal BootX) (Rick Thomas)
4. Re: [yellowdog-announce] Concerning the Teron ATX PowerPC boards: 2003
04/07 (Felix Jodoin)
5. Re: [yellowdog-announce] Concerning the Teron ATX PowerPC boards:
200304/07 (Jim Potter)
6. Re: [yellowdog-announce] Concerning the Teron ATX PowerPC boards:
200304/07 (Rick Thomas)
7. Re: [yellowdog-announce] Concerning the Teron ATX PowerPC boards:
200304/07 (Dan Burcaw)
8. Re: iMac 333mhz - CDRom goes crazy during YD 3.0 Install (Dan Burcaw)
9. Re: miboot documentation? (really minimal BootX) (Eddie Bindt)
10. Re: battery trouble (Dan Burcaw)
11. Re: miboot documentation? (really minimal BootX) (Alexander Holst)
12. 3 clocks on Desktop (alexander_carot@gmx.net)
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Message: 1
Subject: Re: Wireless Solution for 12" Powerbooks
From: Dan Burcaw <dburcaw@terrasoftsolutions.com>
To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
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Date: 09 Apr 2003 12:07:27 -0600
Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Erik,
Excellent information! Thanks for sharing!
-Dan
On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 11:21, Erik Winkler wrote:
> I have found a workable solution as a substitute until Airport Extreme
> is supported. The new Linksys Mini-USB adapter works great with the
> latest linux-wlan drivers (0.2.0) and the 2.4.20 kernel source supplied
> with YDL 3.0. Just setup the config files in /etc/wlan and add
> ifcfg-wlan0 to your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts directory. And
> because the Linksys adapter is Prism3 based, tools like kismet and
> airsnort also work very well.
>
> I am using an Airport basestation with 40-bit WEP enabled and haven't
> noticed any performance issues.
>
> Erik
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:24:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Beartooth <karhunhammas@Lserv.com>
To: yellowdog-general <yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
Subject: battery trouble
Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
I got this G3 ibook from terrasoft in August, and promptly went
out and got a second battery. One battery shows none of the four LEDs
lit, and still operates normally. The other shows one little green LED
lit (the innermost one when it's in the ibook) and does not. When it's
in, the machine won't even turn on; but it will run with it in and the
transformer supplying power from the wall.
I have run 2.3 as much of the time as possible, usually 24/7 for
weeks at a time in recent months. (At first, I used to shut down and
disconnect everything nightly.)
But I ran OSX 10.1.5 for three weeks in January, and am running
it again now, because I can't seem to make 2.3 connect at all when I'm
stuck with dialup only.And I ran it for a week or two in another house
till an apple-fancying friend helped me long distance to figure out how
to make it use DSL through a linksys router.
Surely no battery kept recharged or recharging should die so
soon! What should I do?
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:28:43 -0400
From: Rick Thomas <Rick.Thomas@pobox.com>
To: Alexander Holst <holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
Cc: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Subject: Re: miboot documentation? (really minimal BootX)
Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Thanks Alex! That's a really great HOWTO. It covers all the bases.
Long is good! in this case.
Just out of curiosity, where did you learn all that stuff in the first
place?
Is there an "official" document somewhere that gives the syntax and
semantics (even if informally!) of the "boot.conf" file?
Thanks!
Rick
Alexander Holst wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> here's a mini HOWTO for booting/installing via miboot (sorry for the
> long post):
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:31:38 -0500
From: Felix Jodoin <felixj@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: [yellowdog-announce] Concerning the Teron ATX PowerPC boards:
2003
04/07
To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
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Nope.
On Tuesday, April 8, 2003, at 10:35 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> I'm sorry to hear this. I was looking forward to having an "all
> Yellowdog"
> (including the hardware) system.
>
> Can you tell us whether you are looking at other PPC server hardware?
>
> Rick
>
>
> on 4/7/03 12:03 PM, Kai Staats at kstaats@terrasoftsolutions.com wrote:
>
>> Associates of Terra Soft,
>>
>> Terra Soft Solutions has determined that it is not, at this point in
>> time,
>> prudent to carry the Teron mainboards nor offer Teron-based Boxer
>> systems.
>> This is as great a disappointment for us as it is for many of you.
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 15:41:00 -0700
From: Jim Potter <jpotter@dualg4.com>
Organization: 45th Parallel Processing
To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Subject: Re: [yellowdog-announce] Concerning the Teron ATX PowerPC boards:
200304/07
Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Nope, you're not looking at other server hardware, -OR-
Nope, you can't tell us?
Felix Jodoin wrote:
> Nope.
> On Tuesday, April 8, 2003, at 10:35 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry to hear this. I was looking forward to having an "all
> > Yellowdog"
> > (including the hardware) system.
> >
> > Can you tell us whether you are looking at other PPC server hardware?
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > on 4/7/03 12:03 PM, Kai Staats at kstaats@terrasoftsolutions.com wrote:
> >
> >> Associates of Terra Soft,
> >>
> >> Terra Soft Solutions has determined that it is not, at this point in
> >> time,
> >> prudent to carry the Teron mainboards nor offer Teron-based Boxer
> >> systems.
> >> This is as great a disappointment for us as it is for many of you.
> >
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 18:49:06 -0400
From: Rick Thomas <Rick.Thomas@pobox.com>
To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Subject: Re: [yellowdog-announce] Concerning the Teron ATX PowerPC boards:
200304/07
Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
"Nope" you/they can't tell us? Or "Nope" you/they are not looking?
Rick
Felix Jodoin wrote:
>
> Nope.
> On Tuesday, April 8, 2003, at 10:35 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry to hear this. I was looking forward to having an "all
> > Yellowdog"
> > (including the hardware) system.
> >
> > Can you tell us whether you are looking at other PPC server hardware?
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > on 4/7/03 12:03 PM, Kai Staats at kstaats@terrasoftsolutions.com wrote:
> >
> >> Associates of Terra Soft,
> >>
> >> Terra Soft Solutions has determined that it is not, at this point in
> >> time,
> >> prudent to carry the Teron mainboards nor offer Teron-based Boxer
> >> systems.
> >> This is as great a disappointment for us as it is for many of you.
> >
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Message: 7
Subject: Re: [yellowdog-announce] Concerning the Teron ATX PowerPC boards:
200304/07
From: Dan Burcaw <dburcaw@terrasoftsolutions.com>
To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Organization:
Date: 09 Apr 2003 19:33:07 -0600
Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Felix isn't a Terra Softer.. I don't know what he means by 'Nope'.. but
it certainly doesn't represent what's happening or not happening here..
-Dan
On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 16:49, Rick Thomas wrote:
> "Nope" you/they can't tell us? Or "Nope" you/they are not looking?
>
> Rick
>
> Felix Jodoin wrote:
> >
> > Nope.
> > On Tuesday, April 8, 2003, at 10:35 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> >
> > > I'm sorry to hear this. I was looking forward to having an "all
> > > Yellowdog"
> > > (including the hardware) system.
> > >
> > > Can you tell us whether you are looking at other PPC server hardware?
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> > > on 4/7/03 12:03 PM, Kai Staats at kstaats@terrasoftsolutions.com
wrote:
> > >
> > >> Associates of Terra Soft,
> > >>
> > >> Terra Soft Solutions has determined that it is not, at this point in
> > >> time,
> > >> prudent to carry the Teron mainboards nor offer Teron-based Boxer
> > >> systems.
> > >> This is as great a disappointment for us as it is for many of you.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
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Message: 8
Subject: Re: iMac 333mhz - CDRom goes crazy during YD 3.0 Install
From: Dan Burcaw <dburcaw@terrasoftsolutions.com>
To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Organization:
Date: 09 Apr 2003 19:34:10 -0600
Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
This is the sign of 700 meg CDs being used on an older optical drive.
Burn the isos on 650 meg discs.. and I'd make the bet that the problem
goes away.
-D
On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 00:03, ctaylor@ydl.net wrote:
> Has anyone encountered a problem during the install of YD 3.0?
>
> The problem I get is that first the install will not run in graphical
mode. No
> problem, it then automatically goes into text install.
>
> But what is strange, the install chugs along and then freezes, you can
hear the
> CD rom speeding up slowing down speeding up slowing down..etc. I've tried
the
> install a few times and this occurs at different install periods. First
time
> occured while trying to load up initially, then when it was installing the
> image file, and latest during installation of the rpms.
>
> I used the MD5SUMS to verify the ISOs prior to burning, and they checked
out.
> I performed a clean install - reformated, reinstalled OS 9(OS X too slow),
and
> then started the 3.0 install - used the install to format hard drive.
>
> I'm trying to get this to work on an iMac 333Mhz machine.
>
> Any help is appreciated!
>
> 2.3 installed without a hitch...no idea why 3.0 is giving me such grief.
>
> Chris
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:24:56 +0200 (CEST)
From: Eddie Bindt <eddieb@xs4all.nl>
To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Subject: Re: miboot documentation? (really minimal BootX)
Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
On Tue, 8 Apr 2003, Alexander Holst wrote:
Alexander and others,
I have just some small points left after this rather complete HOWTO from
Alexander :-)
I run miboot on all the oldworld machines I have (unless they are able to
run quik, like my ANS) ...
Holding down some keys while starting miboot (I discovered while holding
<Delete><Option><Command><Shift> to boot from a miboot partition) will
show you that miboot is actually looking for a couple of different config
files on differnet places on the hfs partition.
This how my miboot /boothfs partition looks (Desktop shit removed for
clearer reading) this partition is 20MB.
[root@aws9650 boot-hfs]# tree
.
|-- System Folder
| |-- Finder
| |-- Preferences
| |-- README
| |-- System
| |-- yaboot
| `-- yaboot.conf
|-- System.map
|-- System.map-2.4.18-0.8a
|-- System.map-2.4.18-ben0
|-- System.map-2.4.19-ben0
|-- first.b
|-- kernel.h
|-- module-info
|-- module-info-2.4.18-0.8a
|-- second
|-- second.b
|-- vmlinux
|-- vmlinux-2.4.18-0.8a
|-- vmlinux-2.4.18-ben0
`-- vmlinux-2.4.19-ben0
as you can see, miboot is called "yaboot" here and the conf is called
"yaboot.conf" inside the "System Folder"
The real kernel stuff is in the root off /boot-hfs
This is how my "yaboot.conf" looks :
[root@aws9650 System Folder]# cat yaboot.conf
init-message = "\nWelcome to YellowDog!\Press <TAB> for boot options.\n\n"
timeout = 100
default = vmlinux-2.4.18-ben0-s
image = vmlinux
label = vmlinux
append = "video=imsttfb:vmode:17,cmode:8 devfs=nomount"
root = /dev/sdb9
image = vmlinux-2.4.18-0.8a
label = vmlinux-2.4.18-0.8a
append = "video=imsttfb:vmode:17,cmode:8 devfs=nomount"
root = /dev/sdb9
image = vmlinux-2.4.18-ben0
label = vmlinux-2.4.18-ben0-s
append = "console=ttyS0,38400 console=tty0 video=imsttfb:vmode:17,cmode:8
devfs=nomount"
root = /dev/sdb9
image = vmlinux-2.4.19-ben0
label = vmlinux-2.4.19-ben0-s
append = "console=ttyS0,38400 console=tty0 video=imsttfb:vmode:17,cmode:8
devfs=nomount"
root = /dev/sdb9
The syntax is mostly the same as in other popular bootloader config files
like yaboot, quik or even lilo ...
BUT, be carefull not to make the "label = xxxxxxxxxxx" to long, I am not
exactly sure, but making it longer than perhaps 24 chars, your config will
not work anymore and miboot is not good in error-messages ....
You can pass all kernel arguments you want in the "append" tag, I guess
there is also an length limit on that but don't now how long it might be
in miboot (should look into the source for that)
And YES, I am using the IMSTTFB video card and it works fine, it did from
YDL2.0 til now in YDL3.0. This is the original Apple OEM 4MB IMSTT card
that came in the AWS9650 machines.
I hope YDL puts this HOW-TO from Alexander with perhaps some add-on on
there web-site and award Alexander with some nice T-Shirt, I think he
deserves it ;-)
Have fun,
Eddie
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Message: 10
Subject: Re: battery trouble
From: Dan Burcaw <dburcaw@terrasoftsolutions.com>
To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Organization:
Date: 10 Apr 2003 00:26:57 -0600
Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Were you running in plugged in mode a lot? I know that batteries can
start to degrade after long periods this... they really need to drain
and recharge to last a long time.
-Dan
On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 14:24, Beartooth wrote:
> I got this G3 ibook from terrasoft in August, and promptly went
> out and got a second battery. One battery shows none of the four LEDs
> lit, and still operates normally. The other shows one little green LED
> lit (the innermost one when it's in the ibook) and does not. When it's
> in, the machine won't even turn on; but it will run with it in and the
> transformer supplying power from the wall.
>
> I have run 2.3 as much of the time as possible, usually 24/7 for
> weeks at a time in recent months. (At first, I used to shut down and
> disconnect everything nightly.)
>
> But I ran OSX 10.1.5 for three weeks in January, and am running
> it again now, because I can't seem to make 2.3 connect at all when I'm
> stuck with dialup only.And I ran it for a week or two in another house
> till an apple-fancying friend helped me long distance to figure out how
> to make it use DSL through a linksys router.
>
> Surely no battery kept recharged or recharging should die so
> soon! What should I do?
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:25:47 +0200
Subject: Re: miboot documentation? (really minimal BootX)
Cc: YDL General MailingList <yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
To: Rick Thomas <Rick.Thomas@pobox.com>
From: Alexander Holst <holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Hi Rick,
Am Mittwoch, 09.04.03, um 22:28 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb Rick Thomas:
>
> Thanks Alex! That's a really great HOWTO. It covers all the bases.
> Long is good! in this case.
>
> Just out of curiosity, where did you learn all that stuff in the first
> place?
>
> Is there an "official" document somewhere that gives the syntax and
> semantics (even if informally!) of the "boot.conf" file?
Nope, not really. If, then it should be at Ben Herrenschmid's homepage
- but I haven't found it yet (din't search intensly though :)
http://penguinppc.org/~benh/
Maybe a complete documentation was included in earlier versions of
miboot. I remember that stuff from back when I used LinuxPPC. Miboot
was the way, they got bootable install CDs (and it is still possible to
get bootable CDs for OldWorld machines this way). Therefore, in those
days, miboot support was offered through LinuxPPC support in a way ;)
IMHO, it is the easiest way, to get OldWorld machines and NuBus
PowerMacs to boot a Linux only installation, as it avoids loading any
MacOS stuff and therefore minimizes complications. Only exemtions are
CPU upgrade cards, which usually need some System Extensions to load in
order for the machine to see the newer CPU and switch to it, _before_
loading the Linux kernel.
> Thanks!
You welcome :)
Greetings,
Alex
Alexander Holst
Pforzheim University of Applied Sciences
<holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
ph: +49 [0]7231 28-6837
fx: +49 [0]7231 28-6040
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:43:08 +0200 (MEST)
From: alexander_carot@gmx.net
To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Subject: 3 clocks on Desktop
Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Hi to all,
I executed the time/clock application from the Startmenu of the
Gnome-Desktop which opened another clock on my desktop that I have two of
them now.
Of course I want only one. How can I get rid of the second ? Somebody
suggested doing a right-mouseclick but what is the the right mouseclick on
PPC
(have an iBook) ?
Thanks a lot in advance
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