Just as an update and a thank you, I successfully installed KDE 3.1on my YDL 2.3 system the other night. Hooray! It's MUCH swifter than 3.0, and I'm very happy, especially as it was my first BIG compile. Oh, and in case anyone else wondered about my other question, kio_mac is included in KDE 3.1 by default. Hooray again! Lee