apt-get/yum (was Re: yellowdog-general digest, Vol 1 #923 - Mess 3; yum)

Charles McCallum yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Wed Jun 18 20:54:01 2003


A big fat "me too" on this one, also.  I posted about this ten days ago  
and have gotten no satisfactory solution.

Cheers,

Mike
On Wednesday, Jun 18, 2003, at 12:26 US/Pacific, Derick Centeno wrote:

> Dan: I read your comments regarding yum; I thought it was a typo until  
> I
> found yum mentioned as a real app.  Anyway I just tried it out and the
> app reported serious errors and complaints regarding a corrupted or
> incomplete header and then it quit with a truly cute and meaningful
> statement (something is wrong), I don't know whether someone was merely
> trying to relieve their or another's anxiety or whether it is really a
> helpful clue.  Any here is the actual sequence which occurred in my
> terminal window:
>
> [root@arakus aguila]# yum update
> Gathering package information from servers
> Getting headers from: Yellow Dog Linux 3.0 base
> Getting headers from: Yellow Dog Linux 3.0 updates
> Finding updated packages
> Downloading needed headers
> Damaged Header
> /var/cache/yum/updates/headers/httpd-devel-0-2.0.40- 
> 21.3a.ppc.hdrgetting
> /var/cache/yum/updates/headers/httpd-devel-0-2.0.40-21.3a.ppc.hdr
> ERROR: Url Return no Content-Length  - something is wrong
> URL:
> http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/3.0/RPMS.updates/ 
> headers/httpd-devel-0-2.0.40-21.3a.ppc.hdr
> [root@arakus aguila]# yum upgrade
> Gathering package information from servers
> Getting headers from: Yellow Dog Linux 3.0 base
> Getting headers from: Yellow Dog Linux 3.0 updates
> Finding updated packages
> Downloading needed headers
> Damaged Header
> /var/cache/yum/updates/headers/httpd-devel-0-2.0.40- 
> 21.3a.ppc.hdrgetting
> /var/cache/yum/updates/headers/httpd-devel-0-2.0.40-21.3a.ppc.hdr
> ERROR: Url Return no Content-Length  - something is wrong
> URL:
> http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/3.0/RPMS.updates/ 
> headers/httpd-devel-0-2.0.40-21.3a.ppc.hdr
> [root@arakus aguila]# exit
>
> I got the above by merely copy and pasting between the terminal window
> and the Ximian email application.  I'd like to know how to do the same
> thing however using traditional Unix/Linux commands.  That is, get data
> from the terminal stream, copy it and send it into the Ximian email as
> an attachment.
>
> In any case, you should know of that this problem exists.
>
> On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 11:42,
>> --__--__--
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: 17 Jun 2003 20:08:47 -0600
>> From: "Dan Burcaw" <dburcaw@terrasoftsolutions.com>
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>> Subject: Re: 3.1 soon?
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>>
>> By the way, I've posted the apt and rpm updates to the ftp server for
>> mirroring tonight.  Hopefully this will resolve apt problems. That  
>> said,
>> yum is the recommended update mechanism.
>>
>> And no, I wouldn't expect YDL 3.1 very soon..
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 11:38, Rick Thomas wrote:
>>> They're usually pretty tight-lipped about release dates, so I  
>>> wouldn't
>>> expect to see anything but speculation from uninformed folks (like  
>>> me)
>>> in this list on that subject.
>>>
>>> That said, I'll speculate:
>>>
>>> 1) YDLv3.0 just came out.  If I were running the show (which I'm  
>>> not...
>>> so I'm free to speculate) I'd want to wait at least 6 months  
>>> (preferably
>>> a year) between releases. It costs real $$ to produce a run of CD's  
>>> and
>>> you want to recoup as much of that as possible from sales before you
>>> start the process all over again.
>>>
>>> 2) YDLv3.0 is a great release!  It was a major step forward for  
>>> Yellow
>>> Dog Linux, and I recommend it over any of the 2.x releases. However,
>>> there were some minor problems with the 3.0 release that are still  
>>> being
>>> straightened out.  I'd guess that they won't start on a new release  
>>> til
>>> they get this one under control.
>>>
>>> 3) What would you like to see in YDLv3.1 that isn't already in 3.0?
>>> Anything that can't be provided by the normal
>>> apt-get/yum/download-the-RPM method of incremental enhancements?
>>>
>>>
>>> So... Here's my recommendation:
>>>
>>> 1) Buy a copy of YDLv3.0.  Download and burn the ISO's if you feel  
>>> the
>>> need, but you _should_ financially support the folks who did the  
>>> work if
>>> you can.
>>>
>>> 2) Install it.
>>>
>>> 3) Get the fixed "apt-0.5.5cnc5-fr3.ppc.rpm" rpm from  
>>> <<http://ayo.freshrpms.net/yellowdog/3.0/ppc/freshrpms/RPMS/>>
>>> and install it.  Do this immediately after installing from the CDs --
>>> before even installing any of the security fixes; apt on the 3.0 cds  
>>> is
>>> broken, and you need a working apt for the next step.
>>>
>>> 4) Do an "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" to pick up the latest
>>> security patches and bug-fixes.
>>>
>>> 5) Customize as you see fit.
>>>
>>> 6) Enjoy!
>>>
>>> 7) When 3.1 comes out in 6 months or a year, do it all over again.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick
>>> (Not associated with Yellow Dog or Terrasoft in any way except as a
>>> satisfied customer.)
>>>
>>>
>>> "Larson, Timothy E." wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there going to be a 3.1 release soon?  I'm not the type to be  
>>>> constantly upgrading stuff - I like to install something that works  
>>>> and then use it as long as possible.  I've been thinking of  
>>>> switching to YDL for full-time use, but the latest YDL I have is  
>>>> 2.3.  I'm thinking I should buy a copy of 3.x, but if 3.1 is right  
>>>> around the corner, I would wait just a bit for it.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
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