lists win ... next steps

[Gavin Hemphill]

Thank you Kai.  Your response has convinced me to continue supporting 
YDL as strongly as I can - although I still have concerns over the fact 
that YDL 4 is based on Fedora.  Although I'll reserve judgment until I 
have something in hand to test against the comparable core 2 installs 
I've got in the X86 world.

The latest version of mailman provides almost painless management of 
mailing lists - I can send you a howto that we've prepared ( I can't 
"publish" it due to the internal documentation policy of the Canadian 
Government :-) that covers most of the management issues.

In the future please consider doing a survey (easy to do on the YDL web 
pages) before you make major changes.  Even better yet, maybe we can 
find a way to allow you to accept volunteer help from the concerned 
community.
	G++

Kai Staats wrote:
> Members of General, Devel, and Newbies list,
> 
> Today has been interesting, to say the least :)
> 
> We had made a decision to go with a web-based forum. This was driven by two 
> factors: frustration with the admin interface and functionality of mailman, 
> and a number of requests by users to switch to a web-based forum.
> 
> However, when this decision was announced, the feedback from the active users 
> of the current lists was overwhelmingly in favor of the lists.
> 
> So, we are going to do 4 things:
> 
> 	1) Install the latest version of mailman (this may cause list downtime).
> 
> 	2) Keep the PHP-BB forum on the server but shut-down the current lists (for 
> they are duplicates of the existing mail lists) ... it is likely that we will 
> launch a new forum which does not duplicate the existing lists ... waiting 
> for feedback from our users.
> 
> 	3) Work on a revised, public interface to mailman (sign-up, info, archives) 
> to better maintain a consistent theme with our corporate site and more 
> importantly, offer a less confusing path to subscribing, un-subscribing, etc.
> 
> 	4) Work to further reduce spam that is sent to (and intercepted by) the 
> lists.
> 
> I sincerely apologize for the confusion and do believe the end result will be 
> an overall improvement of the lists.
> 
> Sincerely,
> kai
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