Installing YDL 3.0 on a Mac G3

[mascarasnake]

Hey Alex,

great links. If you don't mind, I'm gonna steal them to post on the FAQ 
site under the BootX, Yaboot and the OF page.

Alexander Holst wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Am 15.06.2004 um 17:19 schrieb Jeffrey Mannion:
> 
>> Hey Alex, thanks a lot for your help. I did the partitioning via Pdisk
>> and got the bootstrap that YDL was complaining about. After going
>> through the rest of the install process, however, the YDL installer hung
>> when it began to install packages.
> 
> 
> I know, that a lot op people think that the installer hangs when it gets 
> to the point of installing the packages - but usually it doesn't. It 
> takes a while to copy stutt to the disk and resolve dependancies of 
> packages. During that stage it just sits there without telling you 
> anything about it. It also depends on the CPU, how long this will take. 
> I remember waiting some five to ten minutes on some machine, before it 
> actually starts installing the packages.
> 
> Take your time and wait - if it takes longer than 10 or 15 minutes, then 
> I guess it really got stuck - it never happened for me though, at least 
> not at that stage.
> 
>> I then tried Linux Mandrake PPC 9.1,
>> and went through the installer like a breeze, but then upon reboot was
>> left just seeing the Mac folder with a question mark. I went into the
>> firmware console, and typed 'setenv boot-device ultra1:2,//:tbxi' to
>> which it responded 'ok', but upon a reboot, I still had no operating
>> system. Any suggestions?? Im pretty baffled here.
> 
> 
> I am not really familiar with Mandrake and its boot process. The only 
> thing that surprises me is the "ultra1:2,//:tbxi"
> 
> First of all, where did you get the "ultra" part from? Is there some 
> sort of a PCI disk controller in the machine? Second, the slashes should 
> be backslashes! \\ A proper boot device line looks like (this is taken 
> from a 400 MHz G4, so it will not work in your case, just to illustrate):
> 
> boot-device     pci2/ata-6@D/@0:9,\\:tbxi
> 
> I simply reads like: device:partition,fileToLoad - So in this case we 
> have an ATA controller on PCI bus 2 [pci2/ata-6@D] with a disk attached 
> as master [/@0] and want to load a file of type tbxi off the 9th 
> partition [:9,\\:tbxi]
> 
> Did you add any disks? If not, simply boot into OF by holding down 
> <cmd><alt><O><F>. At the prompt type "printenv" to see the actual values 
> and the defaults. Usually, "hd" is an alias to the first disk in the 
> machine and should work fine. The default value for booting a Mac with 
> an Apple Operating System on it is:
> 
> boot-device     hd:,\\:tbxi
> 
> In order to avoid several reboot attempts, you can use a command like 
> "boot hd:,\\:tbxi" at the promt, instead of setting the boot-device 
> variable and reboot - saves some time :). The boot-device variable is 
> only used for initially booting up the machine or rebooting it. For now, 
> untill you found the right parameters, try booting from within OF with:
> 
> "boot device:partition,\\:tbxi"
> 
> The device part can either be a full OF path to the actual device or an 
> alias (i.g. hd, cd, enet ...), the partition part should be the number 
> of the partition, where your installer put the boot loader (I have no 
> clue, how Mandrake deals with that). Assuming that Mandrake installed 
> the boot loader on the second partition of your disk, maybe a command like:
> 
> "boot hd:2,\\:tbxi"
> 
> could work for you. If it does, next time you reboot, don't forget to 
> write that into the "boot device" variable, by booting into OF and 
> typint "setenv boot-device hd:2,\\:tbxi" at the prompt. Check with 
> "printenv" to see if changes were written properly.
> 
> To get a bit more info about OpenFirmware and booting from within OF try 
> this:
> 
> http://www.netneurotic.de/mac/openfirmware.html
> 
> It also has some information on how to boot with a bootloader installed 
> in the MasterRecord Block of a disk (quik utilizes that feature). Some 
> more gengeral information about OF can be found here:
> 
> http://diveintoosx.org/OpenFirmware.html
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Alex
> 
> 
> 
> Alexander Holst
> Pforzheim University of Applied Sciences
> <holst [at] fh-pforzheim [dot] de>
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