OT - Care to share your opinion?

[Derick Centeno]

One more thing...you could avoid the use of Linux entirely (for as long 
as you are associated with an institution allowing you access to their 
server) by logging into their server to do whatever work or research 
you need to do on their server.  Of course, the whole point of being a 
student is that the System Administrators already have designed their 
systems such that whatever FUBARs are created by students are 
survive-able and recoverable from the context of whatever assignments 
you are expected to be doing.  They (the System Administrators) don't 
have to like that "their" systems are so stressed but that's the job; 
anyway do things that way and you will be Linux free for the time 
being.

Meanwhile by the time you graduate Apple may have allowed that some 
information filter through to Terra Soft or even Linus (he's a Mac User 
too and designs Linux from Macs now) ... how's that for an argument!

Be well...

On May 17, 2005, at 6:26 AM, Derick Centeno wrote:

> Hi Matt:
> This is argument can be gotten around very nicely.  First, take note 
> of the battery status within OS X and make sure before switching to 
> Linux that the battery is fully charged.  Keep track of the time you 
> are using Linux and to maximize your effort use Linux only when you 
> are creating, testing, designing or will engage upon tasks or research 
> requiring the use of a server!
>
>  Use YDL imbedded or installed on an iPod!  You won't have to worry 
> about partition issues anymore not from your laptop anyway and besides 
> Terra Soft will provide you with YDL loaded onto an iPod so you won't 
> have to do that yourself either.
>
> Another option is to keep the PB connected so that power is continuous 
> while you are in Linux.
>
> With OS X and all the features in it and Darwin one does not even have 
> to code in Linux anymore.  Regarding getting detailed information from 
> the computer effiiciently I used to rely upon gkrellm but even that 
> has been surpassed elegantly in OS X by a shareware product offered by 
> www.iconfactory.com (for $12.95) called iPulse.  Like I said there the 
> only reason to be using Linux is to write/test server stuff.
>
> BSD is that much better and stronger.  Also BSD is not Linux, make 
> sure you google information regarding the nuances and differences.  
> It'll make getting around in OS X a bit easier.
>
> Be well...
>
> On May 17, 2005, at 4:44 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> I've avoided putting Linux on my Mac laptop for the following reason:
>>
>> Apple plays the power management stuff on their machines very close 
>> to their chests.  They consider hardware details like that to be 
>> "proprietary intellectual property" and they don't want it to become 
>> part of an open-source software project until it's obsolete enough 
>> not to be a threat to their future hardware sales.  (Personally, I 
>> find it hard to get inside the head of anybody who believes in 
>> "proprietary intellectual property", but I suppose they are afraid 
>> that some x86 laptop manufacturer will get hold of it and use it to 
>> design a better/cheaper/faster/whatever machine that might cut into 
>> their sales.  Who knows?  It could happen, I suppose...)
>>
>> It usually takes a while for the Linux community to reverse engineer 
>> the details of the PMU on a new machine.  On a laptop, power 
>> management is not just a nice thing to have.  It's a necessity.
>>
>> So, if you buy a state of the art Mac laptop today, it will be a year 
>> or two before you can run Linux on it without either burning it up or 
>> running the battery down too fast for it to be of practical use.
>>
>> So, IMHO, your practical options are Linux on an X86 laptop, or 
>> MacOS-X on a Mac laptop.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> On May 4, 2005, at 5:21 PM, Matthew Page wrote:
>>
>>> This is not flame-bait.
>>>
>>> I am soon going to be going to graduate school to get myself a little
>>> more edumacated.  I plan on following a parallel programming/data
>>> visualization track.  (Just as background information for my 
>>> question.)
>>>
>>> The question:
>>> I plan on running Linux on a laptop, so my question to you is this...
>>> Is there a compelling reason to buy a Powerbook and put Linux on it
>>> instead of ordering a fat-bob x86 laptop and putting Linux on it?
>>>
>>> I have about $3000 in the budget and the laptop should be able to 
>>> last
>>> me through a PHD without having to be replaced.  (If possible...  I'm
>>> not talking about theft here...)
>>>
>>> Any opinions are welcome!
>>>
>>> - Matt
>>
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