[ydl-gen] G5 dual, 2.7 GHz 20" Cinema Display

Hal Martin hal.martin at gmail.com
Sat Jul 22 10:50:02 MDT 2006


I don't think Nvidia is interested in supporting PowerPC for 2 major 
reasons.

1) The Linux market is very small compared to the Windows market, and 
most of the Linux market runs either x86 or x86_64 instruction set.

2) Apple has decided that PPC is an arch not worth developing further. I 
think Apple is 100% wrong on this decision, since all modern game 
consoles (PS2, GameCube, Xbox 360, and PS3) run on the PPC arch. If PPC 
is good enough for all those guys, it's good enough for me.

This is why I've chosen my next computer to be an Xbox 360. It has a 
very powerful CPU, (3 core 3.2Ghz), and I can just play games on it till 
someone releases Linux for it. Good luck!

Hal Martin

Derick Centeno wrote:
> Greetings Dr. Freysinger:
>
> I was wondering if you were willing to try a different approach.
>
> Nvidia, just like other graphics companies does support Linux but 
> typically not Linux running on the PowerPC (see here: 
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html).  As they own the licenses to 
> their hardware and the binaries for the drivers they do allow for 
> download you will of course note that their drivers for other versions 
> of Linux may not be reverse engineered.  This may mean you are left 
> with writing to Nvidia directly requesting permission that they 
> develop or allow you to develop the necessary driver software.  At 
> least if you ask, it'll put them on notice that this (maintaining and 
> supporting development for Linux on the PowerPC) is an issue for them 
> to pay attention to.
>
> Scientists such as yourself know better than I, the technical 
> arguments of the PowerPC v. Intel arch.  Not all the sciences need to 
> utilize these differences together with the flexibility Linux provides 
> for their respective area of research.  For those who choose to 
> utilize the PowerPC to maximize their research, current policies or 
> prejudices by otherwise outstanding companies like Nvidia must be 
> extremely frustrating.  This frustration and Nvidia's potential to 
> relieve it, needs to be emphasized and clarified to their management.
>
> This view or approach may not work, but consider this... if you don't 
> pursue this challenge to their management so that they consider the 
> choice of expanding the Linux drivers they support, you may just have 
> to switch not only to Intel and Red Hat... but a lower order of 
> scientific performance as well.
>
> Again the argument arises, why should Nvidia frustrate your choices of 
> hardware regarding high-level and high-end scientific research?
>
> As someone who has engaged in some technical writing work, if I can be 
> of assistance, feel free to contact me directly.
>
> Best wishes....
>
> On Jul 18, 2006, at 4:37 AM, Wolfgang Freysinger Innsbruck Medical U 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi there everyone!
>> We have quite nice machine (G5 dual, 8 GB RAM, 20" Cinema display, 
>> graphics card that should be supported by YDL 4.1) that we (plan to) 
>> use for some "large-size" image processing tasks (image stacks of 
>> some GB). Unfortunatley, there is no 3D-acceleration support, let 
>> alone can we use the display. Just blurred.
>> After some long period of fiddling, we still cannot use the display 
>> and come to the following conclusion:
>>
>> The X-windows configuration should be read from /etc/X11/Xorg.conf 
>> Actually, it seems to read from somewhere else:
>> the settings of the Xorg.conf and those of the GUI tool (right mouse 
>> click on the desktop, e.g.) do not read equeal.
>> The GUI-config tools do not show an item like 20" Cinema Display.
>>
>> We were able to get something like a readable display. However, the 
>> problem seems to be the frequency, most likely the horizontal "frequeny"
>> of the display. We still have to run the machine on the second 
>> monitor of the dual display. A pity.
>>
>> Did someone get a system like ours ever to work properly?
>> We tried all YDL suggested an more, no success.
>> Does anyone have a clue?
>> We have run out of ideas.
>> Thanks
>>
>> Wolfgang Freysinger
>> assoc. prof., medical physicist
>> 4D Visualization
>> Univ. ENT Clinic
>> Departement of ENT Diseases & Voice, Speech and Hearing Disorders
>> Innbruck Medical University
>> Anichstr. 35, A-6020 Innsbruck, Austria
>>
>> tel.:  +43 512 504 22314, fax.: +43 512 504 25231
>> Wolfgang.Freysinger at uibk.ac.at
>> http://www.i-med.ac.at/igdt
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