[ydl-gen] yellowdog-board.com is not functioning - Off topic discussion

[Derick Centeno]

Hi Frank:

Regarding the Board, I'm sure that you noticed this link:

http://www.yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=9

perhaps this also:

http://www.yellowdog-board.com/faq.php

If you did, it is possible that you missed the hint that the Site  
Admin and the System running the Board are in Germany!

While your sentiment is very well understood, at least by me, the  
community of relationships which exists is just that -- a community.   
The community, as a concept where shared interests exist, ends where  
legalities, ownership and related issues begin to intercede.  One of  
the regions where distinctions occur is in the area of ownership and  
who is responsible for what, and for how long.

It is not practical, or even good, for any business to buy or  
influence everything for the sake of convenience.  The system in  
effect, although rather messy, disruptive and chaotic does guarantee  
a degree of independence throughout each relationship.  And  
individuals will comply accordingly with their unique understanding  
and views regarding the kind of relationships they believe themselves  
to be associated with.

If the Board in Germany is not functioning properly the rest of us  
may feel concerned but all that can practically be done is write to  
the same persons -- the System Administrators -- that everyone else  
would write to.  There might be a phone contact somewhere who knows  
someone to make things happen a bit faster, but that is assuming  
quite a lot for two sites spread across the planet run by completely  
different organizations.  One commercial and the other I imagine a  
non-profit entity or community.

I have my own questions.  How is it that no confusion exists between  
say Hell's Angel's bikers and Harley Davidson bikes?  Really, if you  
think about it I've never heard of anyone writing to the Harley  
Davidson company complaining the a local chapter of the Hell's Angels  
has a peculiar difficulty.  Let me put the question differently.  Is  
Sony or Nintendo supposed to get involved because a community of  
gamers somewhere couldn't access the server run by a local club?  
Being truly "helpful" changes as influence increases; usually  
resulting in "help" transitioning to control.  This conundrum is  
exactly where Microsoft has found itself; it is not an easy issue for  
commercial entities to avoid.

That kind of close association can become a bit too close, to my  
thinking.  Better that distinctions remain and diverse  
responsibilities remain what they are.  The "open source" community  
concept is morphing in many directions and services simultaneously;  
however every commercial and non-profit entity in it's various forms  
should attend to how their unique participation contributes to the  
"community".  This is not as simple as it appears.  It's perhaps like  
different partners of different dance styles being invited to a  
party; how is it going to be all done such that no one gets hurt and  
everyone enjoys the opportunity resulting of coming together in this  
unique manner.

It's a work, or effort, in process or continuing evolvement.  Each is  
free to refuse to participate; respecting this choice for whatever  
reason is imperative.

Best wishes...

On Apr 6, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Frank Lyonnet wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> I just wanted to inform you that it seems that the registration  
> process at the “Community Forum“ http://www.yellowdog-board.com is  
> not functioning properly (the problem has already been reported on  
> this ML). Any message to the admin for manual account activation is  
> returned as non delivered:
>
>
>
>       admin at yellowdog-board.com le 06/04/2007 14:13
>
>             Could not deliver the message in the time limit  
> specified.  Please retry or contact your administrator.
>
>             <exch-ipanema.ipanema.local #4.4.7>
>
>
>
> Not to mention that a couple of weeks ago the forum site was  
> completely down.
>
>
>
> Even though I understand this site is operated by a volunteer. I  
> don’t believe this is a good practice to leave it in that state as  
> Yellow Dog is currently attracting a bunch of new users through the  
> PS3 release. A lot are directed to http://www.yellowdog-board.com  
> quite easily through Google and through Terra Soft site. I guess  
> more support from Terra Soft for this board could be highly  
> beneficial for the image of YDL. This probably applies to this  
> mailing list as well. I understand that a paying community/support  
> exists: YDL.net, but I believe a Linux distribution cannot only be  
> based on paying support …
>
>
>
> Frank
>
>
>
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