[ydl-gen] YDL 6 on a ibook G4 800 Mhz - Correction

Mon Dec 8 14:43:13 MST 2008

Hi Warren:

I read the specs for the PowerStation and Accelerator board more  
carefully and it may not be possible to use this board within the  
PowerStation without some reconfiguration of the PowerStation.

I have no idea whether any modifications can or cannot be done.   
Someone from Fixstars will have to discuss what is possible.  IF it  
is possible imagine what kind of monster system that would be!

The potential of the PowerStation remains compelling even without the  
accelerator board.  Here are some more specs regarding the Powerstation:

http://us.fixstars.com/products/powerstation/breakdown.shtml

All the best...

On Dec 8, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:

> Hi Warren:
>
> Bill or someone from Fixstars should be jumping to help you here.
> However being the wonderful fellow that I am - :-D -  I'll point out
> that the PowerStation runs YDL as it's native OS and is sold
> exclusively from Fixstars - formerly TSS.  The PowerStation CPU
> already is a 4 core Cell although the whole package can be modified -
> read customized - by Fixstars to your needs.
>
> Here's the link which addresses your concerns:
>
> http://us.fixstars.com/store/index.php?submit=hardware&submitimg
> [hardware][powerstation]=1
>
> Consider that to whatever configuration you choose you can also add
> to the PowerStation this board which should provide you which as much
> power as you may need:
>
> http://www.fixstars.com/en/products/gigaaccel180/
>
> Warren, tell me truly.  You want this...
>
> Remember that Apple tied OS X to run on only machines it produces
> except in one case.  In that one exception that company is producing
> a re-engineered Mac laptop as an Intel based tablet PC.  Really
> original thinking, huh?  Sure.
>
> Hopefully, the above has helped.
>
> All the best...
>
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Warren Nagourney wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Bill and Derick.
>>
>> After a little more searching, I found someone who claims that 3D
>> acceleration does indeed work on the ibook, at least somewhat. His
>> test of working 3D is that he gets 850 fps from the glxgears OpenGL
>> demo.
>>
>> I actually have 2D acceleration on my PS3 - I used the hack which was
>> closed out about a year ago by Sony's deliberate change to the
>> firmware (which I haven't upgraded).  Moving windows is silky smooth,
>> but scrolling inside windows is often slow.  However, OpenGL (using
>> Mesa) is adequately fast for my physics demos (I was surprised by
>> this). The slow scrolling together with glacial disk speeds on the
>> PS3 (I think everything goes through the hypervisor) makes the PS3 a
>> little less attractive than a well-supported linux computer, though I
>> still plan to do some spu programming to get my optical design
>> software running very fast.
>>
>> Regarding the Powerstation - it does indeed look to be a very nice
>> (and affordable) system.  I was thinking of buying a used quad
>> processor Apple G5, but some experience with a G5 I borrowed from
>> work (before I retired) has dissuaded me: the power supply literally
>> blew up with lots of smoke, etc. I have subsequently found that this
>> is a common problem and think I will stay away from the Apple G5s,
>> though they seem superbly well engineered in other respects. I expect
>> that there will be a version of the Powerstation with a cell
>> processor (or two) - I will probably wait until then. By the way, can
>> the Powerstation run OS X?
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> wn
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:11 AM, Bill Mueller wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Warren,
>>>
>>> I have a similar ibook running YDL6 (slightly faster), 2D accel
>>> is working fine for video, desktop windows, etc...
>>>
>>> I have not tried 3D.
>>>
>>> -Bill
>>>
>>> On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 21:43:56 -0800, Warren Nagourney
>>> <warren at phys.washington.edu> wrote:
>>>> Thanks, Derick. I didn't see anything about video acceleration. It
>>>> said that there are "no outstanding issues"; this means that video
>>>> works, but is not necessarily accelerated. From my earlier posts
>>>> over
>>>> the last two years (first about my PB 17 and later about my PS3),
>>>> you
>>>> might have concluded that I am allergic to slow and "choppy" video.
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Warren Nagourney
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 7, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Warren:
>>>>>
>>>>> According to this page:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://us.fixstars.com/support/hardware/apple-ibook.shtml
>>>>>
>>>>> You shouldn't have any problems running YDL 6 on it.  As far as
>>>>> wireless follow the instructions here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://us.fixstars.com/support/solutions/ydl_5.x/airport-
>>>>> extreme.shtml
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 7, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Warren Nagourney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recently inherited a supposedly broken ibook G4 800 MHz  
>>>>>> (from my
>>>>>> stepdaughter, who can afford a newer computer) and am thinking of
>>>>>> installing YDL 6 on it. The machine actually works fine and has
>>>>>> 640
>>>>>> Mb of ram. My questions are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any video acceleration to speak of? It has a Radeon
>>>>>> 9200 and
>>>>>> most queries to the net return with the claim that there is no 3D
>>>>>> acceleration. Is this still true? (I would probably skip it if
>>>>>> so - I
>>>>>> have enough annoyance with slow video on my PS3 linux system).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is WIFI supported? (I have an airport extreme card).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone has tried it, does it run well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warren Nagourney
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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