[ydl-gen] Slow ibook X11 (2D)

Warren Nagourney warren at phys.washington.edu
Mon Feb 2 11:10:31 MST 2009


Thanks, Atro for the correction. Yes, the NeXtstations used 33 MHz and  
25 MHz 68040 CPUs.  I think NeXT was pondering porting NeXTstep to the  
(then) new Motorola 88k RISC chip, but it was never ported to the PPC  
(until OSX, of course).

The NeXT machines were marvelous but a bit overpriced, in my opinion.   
I managed to get a "slab" (NeXTstation, 33 Mhz '040) and a cube (25  
MHz '040) when I retired.  I always found it amazing that the OS was  
so responsive - with a megapixel (16 bit) color display, opaque window  
moves were smooth for small windows and not too bad for large windows  
(better than my 1.5 GHz G4 without acceleration!) This is with no  
video hardware! The OS ran fine with 40 megs of RAM and a 600 meg hard  
disk was considered very capacious..

I actually prefer the look and feel of NeXTstep to OSX and even the  
Project Builder and Interface Builder development apps were, in my  
opinion, better than their current progeny (Xcode).  I coded my DAQ  
stuff in the assembly language of the DSP and it acquired data faster  
than the fancy National Instrument boards on current machines (and  
less buggy than NI stuff on the Mac).

Those were the days...


cheers,

wn

On Feb 2, 2009, at 5:15 AM, Atro Tossavainen wrote:

> Derick,
>
>> It's funny that the Nextstation was built around the PPC, which  
>> Jobs -
>> the same fellow who started Next walked away from when he came back  
>> to
>> Apple.
>
> Er, no!  The NeXTs were based on the 68k.  They predated PPC by  
> several
> years (the first NeXT machine was released in 1988, PowerPC started
> shipping in 1990, and Apple released their first PowerPC based  
> machines
> in 1994).
>
> NeXTstep, the OS, existed for x86, 68k, HP PA-RISC and SPARC.
>
> NeXT and PowerPC never met if I understand correctly.
>
> I admined a researcher's NeXTstation way back when, and this person  
> was
> making exactly the same points as Warren for not moving onto PCs for a
> *very* long time.  I think he only gave up when the hardware did.  I  
> also
> upgraded the box from 16M to 32M (a no-brainer) and from a 400M  
> original
> HD to a multi-gigabyte one (which took considerably more effort) :-)
>
> -- 
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