can't transfer files between networked YDL boxes

[David Purdy]

Hi Ron:

Thanks so much.  I will try it as soon as I get home. 
It sounds pretty straightforward...though
"straightforward" is a relative term - especially in
the case of a newbie like me.

I will give the man pages of ssh and scp a good
looking over, for command syntax & such.

Much appreciated...I'll let you know either way how it
goes.

Thanks,

Dave Purdy

--- Ron Smith <ronsmith@ydl.net> wrote:
> I don't think that YDL enables FTP by default.
> 
> Do you have ssh running? If so you can scp (secure
> copy) the files from 
> one machine to the other. This is a bit overkill
> since it is *highly* 
> unlikely that anyone is going to intercept your data
> over a crossover 
> cable, but it might be easier than starting up ftpd.
> Plus you won't 
> have the security liability of having ftp running
> when you do end up 
> connecting them to the public network.
> 
> If you are not familiar with ssh, it is basically a
> secure replacement 
> for telnet. From the user perspective it works just
> like telnet. Under 
> the hood it is really creating an encrypted session
> between the two 
> machines and *never* sends your password across the
> network in plain 
> text (telnet does).
> 
> Instead of:
> telnet machine2.mydomain.com
> 
> you would:
> ssh machine2.mydomain.com
> 
> Or you telnet/ssh directly to the IP address instead
> of by domain name. 
> The first time you use ssh to a particular machine
> it will ask you if 
> you want to accept the key from the remote machine.
> After that it is 
> just like telnet in that it will ask for your
> password, then you are 
> logged in with your normal prompt and at  your home
> directory.
> 
> As long as ssh works, scp will work too. If ssh is
> running and you want 
> to give that a try it is a good way to transfer
> files. Unlike ftp it 
> will give you the status of the file transfer (%
> complete). It can be a 
> little tricky at first so if you can't figure it out
> from the scp  man 
> page, let me know and I will try to explain it more
> clearly.
> 
> On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 12:25 PM, David Purdy
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi:
> >
> > I have two macs running YDL (3.0 on BeigeG3 and
> 2.3 on
> > 7600/233).  The are connected via crossover cable,
> set
> > with IP addresses, and they ping each other with
> 0%
> > signal loss.  (Later I will be setting them and
> > several others up on a router, for a small
> home/office
> > network, mixture of MacOSX and YDL 3.0).
> >
> > I want to transfer files between the two via ftp
> or
> > some other method. I am sure (from pinging) that
> they
> > are network-connected.  But when I try to ftp from
> > either machine into the other to get something I
> get
> > an error message in from ftp, saying 'connection
> > refused', from either side.
> >
> > How can I transfer successfully (and hopefully,
> > painlessly)?  Is there something more that I have
> to
> > do with setup & installation?  Does there have to
> be a
> > ftp service listed in the services configuration
> > panel?  How do I set this all up?
> >
> >
> > Note: I know how to and can currently transfer
> between
> > a MacOS machine and a YDL box, using
> atalk/netatalk.
> > That part works just fine.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dave Purdy
> >
> >
> >
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