can't transfer files between networked YDL boxes

[Ron Smith]

Hi  Dave,

If the 2.3 machine has it installed (just not started) it should be in 
the /usr/sbin directory. If it is there you should be able to just

./sshd

to start it.

If it is not there, you should be able to rpm or yum it, I think. So 
far (both weeks of life with YDL), I have not had to install anything, 
nor have I had a chance to go through and figure out how it boots up-- 
what scripts it runs to start services, so we are heading out of my 
area of experience. =(

I am sure it is possible to install ssh after initial install, but I 
can't venture a guess for how easy or how difficult it may be to do on 
YDL. I have only manually installed it on Solaris (major pain to 
install/configure) and OpenBSD (medium pain). It could be more complex 
than installing ftp because it may or may not automatically run the 
scripts that generate crypto keys and such.

Installing ftp should be a breeze because it doesn't really need any 
configuration. You would just install it and then start ftpd. YDL (and 
most other Linuxes) installs the ftp client, I found it on mine, but I 
didn't see the ftp server on my machine, so I don't think it installs 
it by default.

I think you can just

yum install ftpd

and it will figure things out. I just did that on my machine and it is 
doing *something*.... looks like building a list and taking a few 
minutes to do it.

Installing ssh might be as easy as yum install ssh?

Sorry I'm not much help on this one.

-Ron

On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 06:23 PM, David Purdy wrote:

> Ron:
>
> I was able to connect via ssh and scp just fine.  It
> took a moment to figure out the command formats, but I
> got it.  LOL, on my first try I ended up copying the
> file from the remote home directory to the remote
> desktop!  Well, I got it...thanks.
>
> The one machine (G3 w/ YDL 3.0) seemed to have a ssh
> server already running on it.  I don't think the 2.3
> machine had it listed in the services.  I'm not sure
> why that is.  Is it possible to install ssh after
> basic installation?
>
> Back to the FTP thing... how hard is it to install and
> configure a basic ftp server anyway? Any good
> references for the newbie like me? (reads as: I will
> have to have *everything spelled out.)
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Dave Purdy
>
>
> --- David Purdy <purdyd_at_wisheights@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi Ron:
>>
>> Thanks so much.  I will try it as soon as I get
>> home.
>> It sounds pretty straightforward...though
>> "straightforward" is a relative term - especially in
>> the case of a newbie like me.
>>
>> I will give the man pages of ssh and scp a good
>> looking over, for command syntax & such.
>>
>> Much appreciated...I'll let you know either way how
>> it
>> goes.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dave Purdy
>>
>> --- Ron Smith <ronsmith@ydl.net> wrote:
>>> I don't think that YDL enables FTP by default.
>>>
>>> Do you have ssh running? If so you can scp (secure
>>> copy) the files from
>>> one machine to the other. This is a bit overkill
>>> since it is *highly*
>>> unlikely that anyone is going to intercept your
>> data
>>> over a crossover
>>> cable, but it might be easier than starting up
>> ftpd.
>>> Plus you won't
>>> have the security liability of having ftp running
>>> when you do end up
>>> connecting them to the public network.
>>>
>>> If you are not familiar with ssh, it is basically
>> a
>>> secure replacement
>>> for telnet. From the user perspective it works
>> just
>>> like telnet. Under
>>> the hood it is really creating an encrypted
>> session
>>> between the two
>>> machines and *never* sends your password across
>> the
>>> network in plain
>>> text (telnet does).
>>>
>>> Instead of:
>>> telnet machine2.mydomain.com
>>>
>>> you would:
>>> ssh machine2.mydomain.com
>>>
>>> Or you telnet/ssh directly to the IP address
>> instead
>>> of by domain name.
>>> The first time you use ssh to a particular machine
>>> it will ask you if
>>> you want to accept the key from the remote
>> machine.
>>> After that it is
>>> just like telnet in that it will ask for your
>>> password, then you are
>>> logged in with your normal prompt and at  your
>> home
>>> directory.
>>>
>>> As long as ssh works, scp will work too. If ssh is
>>> running and you want
>>> to give that a try it is a good way to transfer
>>> files. Unlike ftp it
>>> will give you the status of the file transfer (%
>>> complete). It can be a
>>> little tricky at first so if you can't figure it
>> out
>>> from the scp  man
>>> page, let me know and I will try to explain it
>> more
>>> clearly.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 12:25 PM, David
>> Purdy
>>> wrote:
>>>
>
>
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