Should I wait for ydl v4?

Derick Centeno yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
18 Sep 2004 03:42:36 -0400


Then again maybe you are complaining about Kudzu's big sister: Anaconda!
The situation with her is a bit more of the same except she installs
entire libraries, packages and whatnot you may need....cutting her off
is even worse....

On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 03:30, Derick Centeno wrote:
> Consider posting what "questions" were being asked of you during the
> install process which spooked you.  There are some Linux installation
> processes and procedures which are not under the control of Terra Soft
> Solutions but are designed by Red Hat and of course others...open source
> always means others...many forget that!
> 
> I'm guessing but probably a subroutine known as kudzu, whose job it is
> to figure out what modules to include with the kernel so that your
> hardware can run in Linux was asking you what to include and giving you
> time to approve or disapprove of its decisions.  Killing the
> installation process because kudzu spooked you is like killing the
> midwife or nurse just because they went to get an instrument to assist
> in delivery which you felt should only be used on a horse!   
> 
> Messy...unnecessary...and there will be some explaining to do about...
> well you should get the picture.
> 
> Luckily, for you all that's likely to happen is that kudzu will come up
> ...again... ask you the same thing ....again.... you'll kill it again...
> and your installation will NEVER take place ...you'll be waiting for a
> Red Hat based release without kudzu which most likely will never come
> because it is doing a job the rest of us understand.
> 
> Kudzu's job, is to notice what is connected and add the appropriate
> drivers to the kernel during boot time; if there are devices which had
> been previously on,but are turned off during a particular booting
> process...Kudzu will also appear and ask you that it notices something
> is missing and instruct you that it is prepared to remove the drivers
> for that device which it previously installed...it is merely asking your
> permission to either do so or allow whatever it installed previously to
> remain installed.  There is even a third choice...it will do nothing.
> It is better on the first boot to let kudzu install whatever it wishes.
> 
> You won't see kudzu again unless it notices that a device which had been
> present before is not present during a current boot process.  
> 
> However if you told kudzu during the first boot to do nothing even if it
> notes devices it never saw before; your devices won't work because kudzu
> was told to do nothing and doing nothing for kudzu means not installing
> any drivers.
> 
> Kudzu for whatever reason, was written by some engineer not an English
> literature professor and so understanding what it is and not saying can
> be a bit confusing....This is not your fault.  
> 
> Engineers and programmers should take more humanities courses such as
> English...that is just a fact.  Unfortunately, for you, and me and
> others our educational system doesn't agree and forces ever greater
> specialization where many experts are even beginning to fail to
> understand even one another because they are not even in the same field!
> So we all muddle on....
> 
> On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 23:20, Dennis McCuddy wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm completely new to Linux, but I decided to do some reading and give 
> > it a try. I've got a 1.25GHz iMac G4 with 256MB RAM, and downloaded the 
> > images for the 3 install disks for v3.0.1. After creating a partition 
> > for Linux with Volumeworks, I ran the install disks, but toward the end 
> > I started getting some questions about my external Firewire and USB 
> > devices. Frankly, I got scared that a was going to mess up a working 
> > machine and have to hear the complaints of the rest of my family, so I 
> > stopped the whole process. I'm thinking that at this point I should 
> > wait for v4, since my hardware is all fairly new. Does anyone know how 
> > far off v4 is from release, and does my tentative plan to wait before 
> > taking the plunge into Linux make any sense?
> > 
> > Thanks for reading my letter and all opinions are welcome.
> > 
> > Dennis
> > 
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