Should I wait for ydl v4?

Matt yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
18 Sep 2004 11:58:10 -0500


Do you happen to have an older or other Mac you could install YDL on?
Me, personally, i have an older iBook, 3GB hard drive that i installed
YDL on. Of course, i didn't want to install YDL on my main Macintosh
just in case anything happens that cant be irreversible.This is also my
first time installing Linux of any kind and wanted to experiment before
loading on my other Mac's.
Just a suggestion.






On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 02:42, Derick Centeno wrote:
> Then again maybe you are complaining about Kudzu's big sister: Anaconda!
> The situation with her is a bit more of the same except she installs
> entire libraries, packages and whatnot you may need....cutting her off
> is even worse....
> 
> On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 03:30, Derick Centeno wrote:
> > Consider posting what "questions" were being asked of you during the
> > install process which spooked you.  There are some Linux installation
> > processes and procedures which are not under the control of Terra Soft
> > Solutions but are designed by Red Hat and of course others...open source
> > always means others...many forget that!
> > 
> > I'm guessing but probably a subroutine known as kudzu, whose job it is
> > to figure out what modules to include with the kernel so that your
> > hardware can run in Linux was asking you what to include and giving you
> > time to approve or disapprove of its decisions.  Killing the
> > installation process because kudzu spooked you is like killing the
> > midwife or nurse just because they went to get an instrument to assist
> > in delivery which you felt should only be used on a horse!   
> > 
> > Messy...unnecessary...and there will be some explaining to do about...
> > well you should get the picture.
> > 
> > Luckily, for you all that's likely to happen is that kudzu will come up
> > ...again... ask you the same thing ....again.... you'll kill it again...
> > and your installation will NEVER take place ...you'll be waiting for a
> > Red Hat based release without kudzu which most likely will never come
> > because it is doing a job the rest of us understand.
> > 
> > Kudzu's job, is to notice what is connected and add the appropriate
> > drivers to the kernel during boot time; if there are devices which had
> > been previously on,but are turned off during a particular booting
> > process...Kudzu will also appear and ask you that it notices something
> > is missing and instruct you that it is prepared to remove the drivers
> > for that device which it previously installed...it is merely asking your
> > permission to either do so or allow whatever it installed previously to
> > remain installed.  There is even a third choice...it will do nothing.
> > It is better on the first boot to let kudzu install whatever it wishes.
> > 
> > You won't see kudzu again unless it notices that a device which had been
> > present before is not present during a current boot process.  
> > 
> > However if you told kudzu during the first boot to do nothing even if it
> > notes devices it never saw before; your devices won't work because kudzu
> > was told to do nothing and doing nothing for kudzu means not installing
> > any drivers.
> > 
> > Kudzu for whatever reason, was written by some engineer not an English
> > literature professor and so understanding what it is and not saying can
> > be a bit confusing....This is not your fault.  
> > 
> > Engineers and programmers should take more humanities courses such as
> > English...that is just a fact.  Unfortunately, for you, and me and
> > others our educational system doesn't agree and forces ever greater
> > specialization where many experts are even beginning to fail to
> > understand even one another because they are not even in the same field!
> > So we all muddle on....
> > 
> > On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 23:20, Dennis McCuddy wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > I'm completely new to Linux, but I decided to do some reading and give 
> > > it a try. I've got a 1.25GHz iMac G4 with 256MB RAM, and downloaded the 
> > > images for the 3 install disks for v3.0.1. After creating a partition 
> > > for Linux with Volumeworks, I ran the install disks, but toward the end 
> > > I started getting some questions about my external Firewire and USB 
> > > devices. Frankly, I got scared that a was going to mess up a working 
> > > machine and have to hear the complaints of the rest of my family, so I 
> > > stopped the whole process. I'm thinking that at this point I should 
> > > wait for v4, since my hardware is all fairly new. Does anyone know how 
> > > far off v4 is from release, and does my tentative plan to wait before 
> > > taking the plunge into Linux make any sense?
> > > 
> > > Thanks for reading my letter and all opinions are welcome.
> > > 
> > > Dennis
> > > 
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