partitioning questions
David Froseth
dfro at umich.edu
Wed Aug 10 00:00:37 MDT 2005
Hi again Derick,
I tried intalling YDL 4.0.1 and it worked!!! I have the whole KDE
desktop working and internet, too! Thanks for the help! I have wanted
to try linux for a long time.
Still the Disk Utility picture in OS X looks strange:
_______________________
Untitled 512 MB
_______________________
Free Space 18.05 GB
_______________________
OS X 50.56 GB
_______________________
Untitled 18.05 GB
_______________________
Free Space 50.68 GB
_______________________
OS 9.2.2 5.29 GB
_______________________
The list to the left of this also reads:
disk0s10
OS X
disk0s12
OS 9.2.2
Is this normal? This looks very strange to me. The GB amounts also add
up to way more than a 80 gig drive can hold. Thanks for any input. And
thanks again for the help.
Dave
David Froseth wrote:
> Derick,
> I have finally got what I think is a good bootable backup of my OS
> X & 9 HD, using DiskWarrior and Carbon Copy Cloner. I think some of
> my last YDL partitioning problems came from trying to copy to and swap
> a new hard drive into my laptop without ever doing any disk
> maintenance. A little knowledge can give you enough confidence to get
> into big trouble. Then you really learn something! I think my
> original HD was so gummed up with borken permissions and directories
> that the copy hard drive I installed in my computer was a mess. I
> think YDL and all other Linux distros could start by telling people
> that if they plan on a partitioned multi-os system then clean up the
> os's on the existing partitions. Do a disk first aid operation.
> I don't think you should attemt to install YDL untill you have
> mastered how to make a bootable clone of your OS X hard drive. I
> could be way off on this, maybe it doesn't matter. But, I have spent
> a week getting my new hard drive and all of my OS X programs working
> again. I eventually deleted my fink /sw file and I am now reloading
> all of those programs. Having to relearn all of the fink stuff again
> is good. I also have gained a much deeper and valuable understanting
> of the underpinings of unix based os's by struggling with a fried hard
> drive (actually 3 fried hard drives). Luckily I did not lose any
> important data.
> I read the YDL 2.2 guide and that made the process much more
> understandable. Thanks for the advice. In trying my next attempt to
> install YDL, I got to this point and had some questions:
>
> Hard Drives
> /dev/hda
> /dev/hda9 Apple Bootstrap 1
> 2 4
> /dev/hda10 swap 512
> 4 1045
> /dev/hda12 / ext3
> 18487 1045 38605
> /dev/hda11 hfs
> 51769 38605 143786
> /dev/hda13 hfs
> 5422 144046 155061
>
>
> My questions are:
>
> Why does the OS X and OS 9 partitions have the number hda11 and
> hda13? Why does the numbering start so high and why is 12 skipped by
> OSX and OS 9?
> Where are hda1 - hda8?
> Is hda12 going to be physically placed between hda11 and hda13? The
> picture at the top of the window looked right. The order of the Start
> and End points seems to be right, except for the gap between hda11 and
> hda13's start/end points - 143786,144046. What does that mean?
> Should hda11 and hda13 say hfs+?
>
> I hope all of these little detail questions are relevent. Asking
> questions about little details can help with the big picture. Any
> advice you feel like giving would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> Derick Centeno wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave:
>> Here is a link to a TSS page which you really do want to read before
>> going any farther:
>>
>> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/installation/
>> guide2.2.shtml#install
>>
>> Red Hat is useful sometimes but remember they couldn't care less
>> about OS 9 or other non-PC partitioning schemes so the likely hood
>> of you finding anything other than references to detailed
>> applications in Linux is really, really remote. In other words, you
>> are in a Apple PowerPC universe and those are the only references
>> which are going to be helpful. If you wish to learn about details
>> regarding creating mount points within Linux and so on that is fine
>> to use Red Hat but they will not tell you what a MacOS partition
>> looks like within Linux using any application like pdisk or parted
>> (partition editor). The page I found, created by TSS the makers of
>> YDL, will! That's what you need.
>>
>> Attention: Although the page refers to YDL 2.2, the partitioning and
>> mount point instructions are consistent across all versions of YDL
>> for Macs. This will continue until Apple finally actually switches
>> to Intell and then everyone must consider to either stay with
>> PowerPC systems and move up to Genesi/Pegasos hardware or follow
>> Apple or just throw up one's hands and use PCs or Sun's or whatever
>> else is out there. May a HAL 2000 anyone? :-)
>>
>> Oh yes... I forgot. After Apple switches to Intel, then maybe Red
>> Hat may show an interest in serving the users of the New Intel based
>> Macs who also want to use Linux.
>> That however will be a different list, probably not this one.
>>
>> Best wishes...
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2005, at 5:03 PM, David Froseth wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Derick for the quick response. It helped. From now on I
>>> will only do this critical setup manually. More questions. I
>>> understand that the untitled spaces are linux partitions that OS X
>>> does not recognize. Initially when I tried to manually input the
>>> partition info I was asked for a mount point. The manual
>>> partitioning would not continue unless I fill this in. Page 5 of
>>> the "A Companion to Install YDL" does not tell you what to do. I
>>> want to make sure I use up all of the free space and also put the
>>> linux partitions in front of the OS X and OS 9 partitions. Any
>>> explaination on how to control the spot on the hard drive where
>>> the partitions reside? Thanks for any advice. I found some disk
>>> druid tutorials on the net which are geared to Red Hat, I will
>>> study them to see if I can figure this out more. Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
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